Episode Transcript
My name is Ken Hanuman and this is my wife, Dr. Anne O'Hare. We both work in healthcare and have been meditating for many years. We also enjoy a happy and fulfilling marriage. Come, listen, and see how to demystify spirituality and bring it into your home, your hearts, and in all your relationships. We will share our experiences and how we use these principles in everyday life. Welcome to the spiritual relationship. Hello everyone welcome to the spiritual relationship podcast in this episode The topic will be be the image of support My name is Ken Hanuman And this is my wife. Dr. Anne O'Hare. Hello The word support We are aware of physical support that we provide to others or others to us are, physical support, things like money and health and all the other things, resources and so on. So we already know about that. So I'm not, we're not going to go into that. What we would like to go more in depth into is to understanding, support in a more spiritual way. The fact that we live in communities with others, in families, we are influencing our environment. How we do it? That's another question. So, giving support can be something as simple as just being more self aware of your energy. and maybe how others feel when you're around. And then if we, if we see there's a benefit to us in giving out the right energy and having a more, purposeful way in our relationship, maybe the, the self esteem or This feeling of, of well, of well being, that within you, how it makes you feel better. That you would realize this it's very simple. It is within your, it doesn't cost you anything. And it can give, it can be a source of great happiness and support for you. So let's look at it that way. So I'm going to ask Anne to give her contribution. Yeah, I want to say that this is a very nice episode because it's happening already. So, like Ken was saying, what we're going to do right now is we're going to try our best to to shine the spotlight on something that's very special. And what that is, is what impact do we have on each other? How do we impact each other? I have a feeling and we're not going to give too much energy to it because I feel like the world is changing right now towards it, but the abusive codependent angry Resentful, I don't think anybody wants that anymore. Like am I right in saying that? I feel like it's done. Okay. So what we're doing this particular episode It's called be an image of support and I have an example of this So, when I, I'm a nurse, Ken's a nurse also, and I was applying for the job that I have now and one of the leaders, the nursing leaders who did the interview, you know, I did the interview. It was a phone interview. So, I did the interview and then after the interview, she called me and I knew she was the chief. So, we work for the Veterans Affairs. We work for the federal government. So, um, It's a little bit of a different feeling. It's not corporate, it's more like, this is the chief, you know, it's a different kind of a feeling. So I knew she was the chief and she called me and said, you know, you, you did a really good interview but I can't give you that manager position because you don't have enough experience, but would you be willing to take a staff nurse position to get your foot in the door? And I said, yes, absolutely. So, the reason I'm telling this is because that was my first interaction with her. Her name was, I don't want to say what her name is, but she was the, the chief. Anyway, occasionally she would come by the clinic to see, to visit the clinic. And when she walked in, the whole atmosphere changed. Wasn't it? The whole atmosphere changed when she walked in. She didn't say anything different. She didn't do anything different It was her attitude and the way I could say the way she was carrying herself. The way she felt about herself and I would give some words competent confident caring leader Like really Kind of surrendered to the situation. She was going to help and be there. She didn't have to do anything, but as soon as she walked in, everybody felt great. Everybody wanted to talk to her. Oh, let me tell you about this problem we're having or whatever. And she would give so much respect. Whenever she was talking to you she would give you so much respect that you actually felt like she wanted to solve the problem. And that she cared that you asked. I mean, it's an art. I want to say that this is an art that we're talking about. So being an image of support is like an art. And I want to say it's the art of self respect, the art of self awareness, which is kind of what we were going to talk about at the end. But it's basically the art of knowing who you are, knowing what you have accomplished and knowing what you have to offer and offering that. Just by being there, you don't have to say anything special or do anything special, but just by being there. And I got to tell you that that person is, I always give her as an example, always in all the classes and everything. I always think about her. I can tell you, I spent maybe 10 minutes with her my whole life. Besides that, uh, interview, maybe let's say, let's say less than an hour, let's say 45 minutes. I spent 45 minutes with her in my whole life. And I never forgot her. Yeah. So, because she made me feel something. I felt respected. I felt wanted. I felt honored. And that's how she made everybody feel. And I really like that. So I think what Ken's alluding to and what we're going to talk about today is you don't have to be the chief of the nursing or you don't have to be the the head of the company or the CEO or whatever to have that kind of impact or to have that kind of self respect. All of us are in relationship with others already. Like Ken was saying, in families, at our job, everywhere, you don't have to change anything to become spiritual, or in this case, to become an image of support. Support meaning that you, who you are, provides something for others. Yeah. One example I'm looking at, my, the years with my sibling, and there's been quite a And I'm 65, so it's been a long time. And then, at work, and also in this, spiritual community that we're in, just by your own transmission, or your own life, I'm not trying to be a leader, I'm not trying to be, I just live my life. But I, I am. In retrospect, you can evaluate the feeling that people might have towards you and how, and how they might like to hear your experience. How they might like to listen to your advice. How they might appreciate being in your company. And then, from time to time they might say, so you get a picture, you get an understanding of the energy and the memories that you create in others. And that is how Now that I'm looking back, looking back, I realize I didn't intentionally do it. What I found that the spiritual value that was helpful was that I had like a listening or an understanding of what others might appreciate. And two, being stable. Your life has been kind of stable, not one way today and another way the next day. You're not like way negative one time and positive. You're kind of stable. You have a stability. And therefore there was an example there. And I, when you look at families too, as a parent, it is because of the stability of the parent, the child always have a frame of reference, always have something. To compare to and therefore you become like a light or a beacon of light or something to say, you know, I've experienced it this way. I know this was fine and I would like to be like this or whatever, you know, or variations of that. The thing is that we do, when I say you influence other people, people as soon as Once we're in relationship, we are creating an image of, of, of everyone within our, our consciousness. And that conscious, that, that image is being supported by feelings, by emotions, by, by good memories and, kindness and love or even negative things too, but whatever. But. And then people are referring back to that memory. And I think that's the best kind of support. You see this with somebody who has grown old. Certain communities, right? That old person is not cast aside. But they are revered for their experience. And people want to listen to their stories. And maybe they play some part. So there's, you're functional. in that community throughout your life. So, um, that's how I look at support. And this doesn't cost you money. Those who have the money and the time, fine. Go ahead and help, support in a physical way. But don't stop there. And what I find gives the greatest happiness is when what people feel about you and what they remember about you and what they what they continue to find as a good example that continues to do It provides support for them. Yeah, and and it and it provides Um blessing to you like in a way because they're referring back to you with some positivity. So, that is the greatest support. I'm, I'm smiling because this is so opposite of the way we thought life was. Isn't it? Like, I, we maybe thought that life was a struggle. Or life was painful. Or life was always in resistance to things. Or life was hard work without any real happiness or something like that. I mean, that's how I felt it was, to some degree, I feel like the world is moving away from that now fully. And so as we're talking about this, see if you can notice it now in your life, notice how am I impacting everyone around me? How is everyone around me impacting me? It's happening all the time, constantly. It's kind of like it's hiding in plain sight. So it's a wonderful thing to consider and also to be responsible for. And I think that's the last point that maybe we'll bring now is that we're talking about this as it's happening, but let me start to understand and be responsible for the impact that I'm making in the world. It's interesting we talk about meditation and how like you're serving the world or you have good wishes for the world But this is like on the ground practical like how am I affecting the people around me every day? And be honest. There's no point in hiding it anymore Just be honest. Okay. Yeah, I've been I've been upset or yeah, I've been selfish or yeah, I've been resentful or yeah I've been small. I've been gossiping. I've been doing whatever whatever. It doesn't matter. You can stop it today. You can stop it right now Everything that you have to give you're already they already know it. Here's the other secret. They already know what your potential is It's almost like we don't know what our potential is, right? So I think that's basically what we're sharing today is it's happening all the time. We're influencing each other all the time and to become aware of it. Let go of some of those negative ideas about how life is and become responsible. And I think obviously try to be positive, create a positive impact. One, practice I would like to share. Some people think meditation is about getting lost and being able to go and trance, receive vision. But there's a practice that I do, and many others that I, you know, do, and that is to spend a few minutes of your time visualizing the people around you, and maybe the world, nature, your body. And send out good feelings and good wishes to, to, to everyone. What it does for your heart, it sounds as if it's imagination or it's like, you're making like child's play then or something. It's not because if you look at the way our mind is being used during the day, Support, being in image of support can also be done from your mind. And your mind is a resource that you can get support from if it becomes your friend. But it needs to be trained. So why not tap into that resource that you have? And one of the way is to train the mind to think of giving. And sharing. Become more aware of it. Become more purposeful about it. And you'll see that it might take a while, but after a while the mind is still the mind is actually your tool. It's not you're the one using the mind. So why not let, make it your friend. Let it be your support. So train your mind to give. And this is thinking, here again, you're not even interfering, you're not using up, this is happening inside. So you, you, it doesn't cost you anything. And you can do it anywhere, anytime. Morning, evening, anywhere. So that's another form of support. So I hope that you all were able to pick up something out of this discussion. That it's already happening, become more aware and to be able to use our mind to learn how to be positive, learn how to be giving and transform our energy and become that image of support. So thank you everyone for being here and take care. We'll see you next time. Thank you. All right. Bye bye. When you walk into a room, life gets little sweeter. When I look at you, I see you are my, you are. My life. My life. My life.